WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:10.580 Nine in the evening. The tent's pitched at the edge of the woods, the campfire's dying down, and Basha, five, has just grazed her knee on a root. 00:11.320 --> 00:18.080 I reach into the rucksack for a plaster, and there isn't one. Left at home, in the drawer. 00:18.600 --> 00:20.060 And the nearest chemist's? 00:20.060 --> 00:29.900 Twenty minutes' drive, and shut anyway. So I'm standing there in the dark with a tissue, thinking, how have I done this again? 00:30.900 --> 00:41.080 Hello, I'm Tomasz Szuster. I built the Mojapteczka app. And what you've just heard is a classic, the camping kit, the thing you only think about once you're in the woods. 00:42.060 --> 00:47.020 Today, what to pack so a grazed knee is a pit stop, not the end of the day. 00:47.220 --> 00:56.720 And let's flag it straight away. We're talking about packing and order, not treatment. What to add to the rucksack, not how to treat something. 00:57.240 --> 01:04.240 Exactly. Treatment stays with the doctor and the pharmacist. My job is making sure what you need is in the rucksack. 01:04.760 --> 01:10.320 Then tell me how camping is any different from the kit I've got at home, because at home I've got everything. 01:10.320 --> 01:18.080 And that's the whole difference. At home, the chemist's is round the corner, and if you're short of something, you nip out for it in the evening. 01:19.000 --> 01:26.920 In the woods, it's the other way round. You can't buy a thing after dark, often you've no signal, and the mosquitoes and ticks come as standard. 01:27.760 --> 01:30.720 So you pack for being on your own with whatever's in the rucksack. 01:31.220 --> 01:32.540 So, a bit extra. 01:32.540 --> 01:36.080 A bit extra, and a few things you'd never take in town. 01:36.920 --> 01:39.160 Let's start with the basics. Little injuries. 01:39.860 --> 01:42.680 Plasters in a few sizes. Blister ones included. 01:43.240 --> 01:46.580 Because after a day's walking, your feet can really take a beating. 01:47.440 --> 01:50.980 A sterile dressing. A bandage. Something to disinfect with. 01:51.400 --> 01:52.940 Small scissors. Gloves. 01:53.540 --> 01:55.000 The basics for a little cut. 01:55.000 --> 02:00.320 And let's stress little. Because if a wound's deep or won't stop... 02:00.320 --> 02:06.380 You don't improvise. You call for help. The kit's for a grazed knee. Not a serious injury. 02:06.880 --> 02:11.980 Right. Insects. Because the woods are one big mosquito. 02:12.880 --> 02:15.160 And midges. And ticks. 02:15.920 --> 02:23.440 Three things. Repellent. A tool for removing a tick. A tick remover or tweezers. And afterbite gel. 02:23.440 --> 02:29.780 Hang on. Repellent for a child. Because people grab whatever's on the shelf here. 02:30.240 --> 02:36.620 And this matters. You choose one that says on the label what age of child it's approved for. 02:37.020 --> 02:41.920 And you use it exactly as the instructions on the pack say. No guessing the amount. 02:42.740 --> 02:48.120 And if you're unsure, you ask the pharmacist. This isn't the place for guesswork. 02:48.120 --> 02:53.420 And a tick? Because that's probably a parent's biggest fear in the woods. 02:53.960 --> 02:58.720 The rule here is simple. It's worth having a tick removal tool in the rucksack. 02:59.460 --> 03:04.660 And what exactly to do after a bite? Best done in line with public health guidance. 03:05.280 --> 03:07.740 And if anything worries you, with the doctor. 03:07.740 --> 03:15.440 These aren't tips off the top of my head. And to be clear, the Moya Patechka app doesn't spot a tick from a photo. 03:16.040 --> 03:18.500 And it doesn't diagnose tick-borne illness. 03:19.080 --> 03:23.780 We actually did a whole separate episode on ticks. A tick after a walk. 03:24.260 --> 03:26.220 So the app doesn't play doctor here? 03:26.660 --> 03:28.820 It doesn't. And that's deliberate. 03:29.460 --> 03:35.840 And the sun? Because woods are woods, but a clearing at midday can really catch you. 03:35.840 --> 03:39.600 Sun cream. After sun, used as the label says. 03:40.320 --> 03:42.720 And rehydration salts with a supply of water. 03:43.640 --> 03:46.400 In the heat, a child dehydrates faster. 03:47.380 --> 03:49.340 Dull until you forget it. 03:49.800 --> 03:53.720 The classic. We pack a plaster and forget the water. 03:54.540 --> 03:55.140 Quite. 03:55.840 --> 03:59.900 Right. So where does the app even help on a camping trip? 04:00.280 --> 04:03.420 Because so far we're talking about the rucksack itself. 04:03.420 --> 04:06.440 It helps earlier, at home, before you pack. 04:07.120 --> 04:11.200 Because the biggest mistake is packing a kit where you haven't even checked half the dates. 04:12.160 --> 04:16.700 Last summer's repellent, afterbite gel, sun cream, antiseptic. 04:17.120 --> 04:18.740 They've all got an expiry date. 04:19.240 --> 04:21.500 And once they're opened, they go off faster. 04:22.100 --> 04:24.560 And the worst moment to find out... 04:24.560 --> 04:25.660 Is in the middle of the woods. 04:25.660 --> 04:28.680 That's why the app has a soon view. 04:29.280 --> 04:32.380 A list of the things whose date is running out, marked in colour. 04:33.100 --> 04:35.340 Red when the date's gone or about to. 04:36.020 --> 04:37.420 Orange when it's getting close. 04:38.120 --> 04:39.400 Green when it's fine. 04:40.220 --> 04:43.680 A glance, and you see what needs checking before you pack. 04:44.140 --> 04:46.060 And that works on sun cream too? 04:46.560 --> 04:47.600 Not just medicines. 04:47.600 --> 04:49.980 On anything you add with a date. 04:50.840 --> 04:53.640 You put sun cream or repellent in, just like a medicine. 04:54.200 --> 04:55.620 Off a photo of the pack, even. 04:56.260 --> 04:58.680 And the app reads the name and the expiry date. 04:59.020 --> 05:00.680 And drops it onto the same list. 05:01.620 --> 05:04.460 It's not a background scan chasing you with notifications. 05:05.180 --> 05:07.200 It's a view you look at when you're packing. 05:07.780 --> 05:09.900 Right. That does sound honest. 05:10.460 --> 05:11.660 No scare tactics. 05:12.260 --> 05:13.880 Because it's not about scaring you. 05:14.300 --> 05:16.480 Just one glance before you go. 05:16.480 --> 05:18.680 Now the hardest bit. 05:19.440 --> 05:20.280 Regular medicines. 05:20.840 --> 05:23.320 Because if someone takes something every day, 05:23.640 --> 05:26.440 you're not leaving that in the drawer next to the plaster. 05:27.040 --> 05:28.880 That's the part that's easiest to forget. 05:29.380 --> 05:30.440 And the most important. 05:31.560 --> 05:32.120 Three things. 05:32.800 --> 05:35.860 First, enough for the whole trip, plus a reserve. 05:36.260 --> 05:38.420 In case it runs on or something goes missing. 05:39.420 --> 05:42.940 Second, before you go, you check how much is in the packs. 05:43.440 --> 05:46.240 This is where the to top up list helps. 05:46.480 --> 05:50.420 As you log a pack being used and the supply drops below a threshold, 05:50.940 --> 05:52.100 the medicine lands on it. 05:52.740 --> 05:55.000 You catch what's about to run out at home. 05:55.600 --> 05:59.040 And when there's a few of us and everyone takes something different? 05:59.840 --> 06:01.520 Grandma Irene is coming with us. 06:02.020 --> 06:04.160 Leon, nine, has his medicines. 06:04.160 --> 06:05.620 I've got mine. 06:05.620 --> 06:07.680 Then the shared family list comes in. 06:08.160 --> 06:09.380 Everyone has their own profile. 06:09.800 --> 06:12.260 And a carer sees in one place who takes what. 06:12.940 --> 06:14.520 You can have Leon's list separately. 06:14.980 --> 06:16.040 Irina's separately. 06:16.860 --> 06:18.740 And now my favourite question. 06:19.620 --> 06:20.220 The woods. 06:20.900 --> 06:21.680 No signal. 06:22.380 --> 06:24.060 That whole list is on the phone. 06:24.060 --> 06:26.880 And then what, if there's no internet? 06:27.520 --> 06:28.920 It works offline. 06:29.520 --> 06:30.800 On one honest condition. 06:31.320 --> 06:34.940 The phone has to get a signal once and sync before you head into the woods. 06:35.280 --> 06:37.340 If it does that at home or on the way, 06:37.720 --> 06:40.000 then later, with no signal under the tent, 06:40.400 --> 06:41.720 the list is still to hand. 06:41.720 --> 06:43.580 All right. 06:44.140 --> 06:46.860 So you're not promising magic without the internet? 06:47.620 --> 06:47.980 I'm not. 06:48.440 --> 06:50.420 It syncs once, then it works offline. 06:51.080 --> 06:54.340 I'd rather say it plainly than have you find out in the woods that it doesn't. 06:55.020 --> 06:56.300 I do appreciate that. 06:56.960 --> 07:00.100 Because most apps promise everything always works, 07:00.400 --> 07:01.600 and then it doesn't, 07:01.960 --> 07:03.220 right when you need it most. 07:03.780 --> 07:06.240 And one more thing, so we're honest all the way. 07:06.880 --> 07:09.140 A camping kit is kit for minor first aid 07:09.140 --> 07:11.380 and for keeping the medicines you're carrying in order. 07:12.020 --> 07:13.820 Not for treatment and not for rescue. 07:14.560 --> 07:16.440 With a serious injury, a big wound, 07:16.760 --> 07:18.260 a strong reaction after a bite, 07:18.760 --> 07:21.040 you ring 999 and get help. 07:21.640 --> 07:22.760 And out in the middle of nowhere, 07:23.180 --> 07:25.400 it's worth knowing in advance the way in by road 07:25.400 --> 07:27.680 and where it's easiest to call that help from. 07:28.540 --> 07:30.280 So Plan B isn't the app. 07:30.740 --> 07:33.360 It's the emergency number and a level head. 07:33.900 --> 07:34.260 Always. 07:35.020 --> 07:36.680 The app organises what you pack. 07:36.680 --> 07:38.680 The rest is down to you. 07:39.460 --> 07:41.320 Then sum up what goes in the rucksack. 07:41.720 --> 07:42.200 Quickly. 07:42.940 --> 07:43.340 Wounds. 07:43.800 --> 07:45.500 Plasters, blister ones included, 07:45.940 --> 07:48.700 dressings, antiseptic, gloves, scissors. 07:49.620 --> 07:50.500 Insects and ticks. 07:51.140 --> 07:52.400 Repellent, as the label says, 07:52.780 --> 07:54.080 a tick remover or tweezers, 07:54.460 --> 07:55.240 afterbite gel. 07:56.100 --> 07:56.380 Sun. 07:56.880 --> 07:59.220 Sun cream, after sun, as the label says, 07:59.700 --> 08:01.340 rehydration salts and water. 08:02.240 --> 08:02.960 Regular medicines. 08:03.420 --> 08:04.820 A supply plus a reserve. 08:04.820 --> 08:07.740 An offline list, a shared family list. 08:08.400 --> 08:09.120 And before you go, 08:09.540 --> 08:11.360 a check of the expiry dates at home. 08:11.920 --> 08:12.900 And on top of it all, 08:13.060 --> 08:13.720 a level head. 08:14.800 --> 08:16.820 The kit won't replace knowing where you are 08:16.820 --> 08:19.040 and who you call if something happens. 08:19.900 --> 08:20.420 Well put. 08:20.420 --> 08:22.280 If you'd like to give it a go, 08:22.800 --> 08:24.860 that's the Moya Pteczka app. 08:25.640 --> 08:27.640 The app is free and works offline. 08:28.240 --> 08:30.220 You'll find the link in the episode description. 08:31.480 --> 08:33.400 And if this episode's been useful, 08:33.980 --> 08:36.160 pass it on to someone who's packing a rucksack 08:36.160 --> 08:38.160 for camping with children right now. 08:38.160 --> 08:41.460 One more thing before we go. 08:42.160 --> 08:44.140 This podcast is made with the help 08:44.140 --> 08:45.420 of artificial intelligence. 08:46.360 --> 08:47.800 I wrote the dialogue myself, 08:48.280 --> 08:50.500 but the voices you're hearing aren't ours. 08:51.140 --> 08:53.860 They're AI-generated, synthetic voices. 08:54.800 --> 08:56.480 We're telling you this straight out 08:56.480 --> 08:58.660 because we think it should be the standard 08:58.660 --> 09:00.740 for any podcast made this way. 09:01.740 --> 09:03.360 Full details are in the show notes 09:03.360 --> 09:05.540 and in every episode description. 09:05.540 --> 09:07.760 Until next time. 09:08.860 --> 09:10.120 Until next time.