WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:09.020 Right. I sat down last night with a note off the fridge, with an old reminder app, and with a draw that's got... 00:09.020 --> 00:16.140 Honestly, I've no idea how much is in there. And I decided to finally get it all into one place. 00:16.460 --> 00:17.760 In the Moya Potechka app. 00:18.120 --> 00:24.060 Exactly. And straight away, question number one. Where do I upload the list? 00:24.060 --> 00:30.420 Some of it's in the notes on my phone, some in a spreadsheet, some in that old app. 00:31.060 --> 00:34.340 I export a file and drop it in. Yes? 00:34.880 --> 00:39.480 And there I've got to stop you right away. There's no such thing as upload a file. 00:39.980 --> 00:44.760 No importing from a spreadsheet. No move it over from another app in one tap. 00:45.400 --> 00:51.100 I checked it in the code specially before we sat down for this. That feature simply isn't there. 00:51.100 --> 00:56.080 Hang on. So I've got to type every medicine in by hand? 00:56.620 --> 00:58.540 Not by hand. By photo. 00:59.440 --> 01:03.400 You open the Add tab. It's along the bottom, the camera icon. 01:03.940 --> 01:05.680 And the camera comes on straight away. 01:06.280 --> 01:10.440 Because adding a medicine in the Moya Potechka app always starts with one thing. 01:11.060 --> 01:12.940 You take a photo of the box. 01:12.940 --> 01:19.700 Always? There's no little add a medicine by hand window tucked away somewhere. 01:20.380 --> 01:22.500 Type the name, type the dose, done? 01:23.000 --> 01:25.020 There isn't. There really isn't. 01:25.540 --> 01:27.160 The way in is the camera. 01:27.980 --> 01:29.740 You photograph the front of the box. 01:30.260 --> 01:35.380 And the app pulls the name, the dose, the expiry date and the barcode off it. 01:35.600 --> 01:37.340 And what's the barcode for? 01:37.340 --> 01:40.540 It's just one of the fields the scan reads off the photo. 01:41.180 --> 01:44.000 Alongside the name, the dose and the expiry. 01:44.660 --> 01:49.400 I'm not going to kid you that the code itself fetches a full medicine card from some register. 01:50.060 --> 01:54.260 And separately, in the app there's a database of about 70,000 entries. 01:54.880 --> 01:58.380 But that one's for building a shopping list, not for filling your cabinet. 01:58.380 --> 02:03.520 All right, but listen, I've got this list mostly on paper. 02:04.260 --> 02:06.680 Some of the boxes I haven't even got to hand. 02:07.220 --> 02:08.820 They're at Grandma Irena's. 02:09.040 --> 02:10.000 They're in the other cupboard. 02:10.160 --> 02:12.000 And those are two different situations. 02:12.820 --> 02:15.320 If you've got the box, you photograph it. 02:15.880 --> 02:19.000 If you've already got a photo of the box in your phone's gallery, 02:19.480 --> 02:22.220 you can pick it from the gallery instead of snapping a new one. 02:22.220 --> 02:28.360 But if all you've got is the name on a bit of paper, no box and no photo, 02:29.060 --> 02:31.180 that one you can't bring across. 02:31.920 --> 02:35.700 Because there's no type-just-the-name-and-confirm route. 02:36.560 --> 02:41.720 So it's an evening with the drawer, snapping box after box. 02:42.520 --> 02:42.900 Yes. 02:43.380 --> 02:44.460 And you know what? 02:44.860 --> 02:47.060 I actually don't think that's a downside. 02:47.860 --> 02:51.600 Because along the way, you do something almost nobody does willingly. 02:52.500 --> 02:54.000 A proper sort-through. 02:54.980 --> 02:56.100 You pick up each box. 02:56.520 --> 02:57.240 You look at the date. 02:57.920 --> 03:00.960 And part of what's in that drawer goes straight to one side, 03:01.340 --> 03:04.080 to hand back at the pharmacy, not into the app. 03:04.920 --> 03:06.760 Because some of it's out of date. 03:07.440 --> 03:07.840 Exactly. 03:08.860 --> 03:13.740 With this method, moving the list and having a tidy-up are one and the same thing. 03:14.160 --> 03:16.980 You're not copying the chaos across one-to-one. 03:17.600 --> 03:19.200 You're sifting it as you go. 03:19.200 --> 03:22.160 And what if the photo doesn't catch something? 03:22.740 --> 03:25.600 Because not every box looks like it's off an advert. 03:26.320 --> 03:27.400 They get creased. 03:27.820 --> 03:29.280 Some aren't even in English. 03:29.840 --> 03:31.700 Then you fix it by hand. 03:32.580 --> 03:33.600 Once you've taken the photo, 03:33.600 --> 03:38.620 you can open each medicine in the Edit Medication view and tidy it up. 03:39.260 --> 03:43.920 The name, the dose, the quantity, the expiry date, a note. 03:44.740 --> 03:51.940 So typing things in does exist, but as a correction after the photo, not as the way to start. 03:51.940 --> 03:55.800 Now, tell me one thing completely honestly. 03:56.760 --> 04:03.960 This recognising from a photo, does it happen on my phone or does it send the photo off somewhere? 04:04.520 --> 04:05.480 It sends it. 04:05.940 --> 04:10.560 The recognition itself is done by a server, so to scan, you need the internet. 04:10.560 --> 04:12.740 I've got to say that plainly. 04:13.140 --> 04:16.120 With no connection, the photo won't process. 04:16.820 --> 04:18.360 OK, that's fair enough. 04:18.700 --> 04:20.380 I'd rather know than guess. 04:20.740 --> 04:22.000 And a second honest thing. 04:22.720 --> 04:25.300 The app saves the expiry date off the photo, 04:25.780 --> 04:29.160 but the batch number, the lot, it doesn't save. 04:29.160 --> 04:34.220 I mention it so you're not later hunting in the app for something that isn't in there. 04:35.220 --> 04:35.820 Right. 04:36.700 --> 04:39.540 So now let's say I've got it all inside. 04:40.260 --> 04:44.120 What does that actually give me that the note on the fridge didn't? 04:45.000 --> 04:49.980 First thing, you can assign each medicine to a person or to someone in your care. 04:50.960 --> 04:51.920 This one's Leon's. 04:52.240 --> 04:52.800 He's nine. 04:53.280 --> 04:54.500 This one's Bash's. 04:54.880 --> 04:55.540 She's five. 04:56.100 --> 04:58.060 And this one's Grandma Irina's. 04:58.060 --> 05:02.960 So I don't have to wonder who that pink box actually belongs to. 05:03.640 --> 05:04.360 You don't wonder. 05:05.640 --> 05:07.360 Second thing, dates. 05:08.520 --> 05:11.320 There's a separate expiring medications list, 05:11.900 --> 05:13.440 where the colours tell you what's pressing. 05:14.060 --> 05:16.040 Red, amber, green. 05:17.020 --> 05:19.720 Urgent, watch out, safe. 05:20.500 --> 05:22.760 Plus a widget on your phone's home screen. 05:23.340 --> 05:26.760 So the app reminds me something's about to go out of date. 05:26.760 --> 05:29.700 Let me correct you here, to keep it honest. 05:30.520 --> 05:32.780 It's not a notification that pops up on its own. 05:33.400 --> 05:34.460 Medicine expiring. 05:34.980 --> 05:36.420 It's a list you look at. 05:36.800 --> 05:37.300 And a widget. 05:38.080 --> 05:39.540 There's no expiry push. 05:40.580 --> 05:43.060 I don't want you counting on an alarm that isn't there. 05:43.840 --> 05:47.180 I appreciate you telling me that, rather than promising. 05:47.180 --> 05:48.920 Third thing. 05:48.920 --> 05:52.040 And this is probably the biggest difference from a bit of paper. 05:53.120 --> 05:55.180 You can share the cabinet with your family. 05:56.380 --> 05:59.700 You invite the household in, and everyone sees the same stock. 06:00.340 --> 06:04.120 Or, if you just want to show someone outside the family the list itself, 06:04.760 --> 06:05.780 you send it as a link. 06:05.780 --> 06:11.740 And that all medicines thing I saw in the app, is that for adding too? 06:12.560 --> 06:15.340 That's a common mix-up, so I'm glad you asked. 06:16.380 --> 06:20.900 All medicines is a browser of that database of 70,000 products. 06:21.940 --> 06:24.400 From there, you drop items onto a shopping list. 06:25.120 --> 06:27.460 It's called your restock list. 06:28.320 --> 06:30.620 That's not adding a medicine to your cabinet. 06:30.620 --> 06:34.420 A medicine only gets into the cabinet through a photo. 06:35.440 --> 06:39.100 From the database, you build a shopping list, not a cabinet. 06:39.320 --> 06:40.560 So two different drawers. 06:41.120 --> 06:42.420 One, what I've got. 06:42.800 --> 06:44.520 The other, what to buy. 06:45.200 --> 06:45.920 Perfectly put. 06:46.700 --> 06:50.880 And once I've got it all inside, does it work with no signal? 06:51.560 --> 06:55.740 Because at Grandma Irene's allotment, there's practically no reception. 06:56.560 --> 06:58.840 Browsing, editing, ticking things off. 06:58.840 --> 07:01.360 Yes, that works without the internet. 07:02.220 --> 07:04.740 Only scanning a new medicine needs a connection, 07:05.140 --> 07:07.100 because the server analyses the photo. 07:07.980 --> 07:09.820 So my real plan for tonight? 07:10.640 --> 07:15.000 The drawer, the camera, snapping box after box. 07:15.680 --> 07:19.220 The out-of-date ones to one side, to hand back at the pharmacy. 07:19.900 --> 07:22.380 And the rest, I assign to a person. 07:23.180 --> 07:25.640 And after that one evening, you've got a single list. 07:25.640 --> 07:29.460 Instead of a note, a spreadsheet, and an old app, all separately. 07:30.520 --> 07:34.440 And by the by, everything I'm talking about here is a real feature of the app. 07:34.960 --> 07:39.480 I'm being specific about it, so it's clear what the ad really does, and what it doesn't. 07:39.480 --> 07:44.500 If you'd like to give it a go, that's the Moya Pteczka app. 07:45.120 --> 07:47.060 The app is free and works offline. 07:47.700 --> 07:49.440 You'll find the link in the episode description. 07:50.140 --> 07:54.900 And if you enjoyed the episode, share it with someone whose medicine drawer is one big muddle. 07:54.900 --> 07:57.820 One more thing before we go. 07:58.340 --> 08:01.500 This podcast is made with the help of artificial intelligence. 08:02.220 --> 08:05.960 I wrote the dialogue myself, but the voices you're hearing aren't ours. 08:06.480 --> 08:08.720 They're AI-generated synthetic voices. 08:09.620 --> 08:14.380 We're telling you this straight out because we think it should be the standard for any podcast made this way. 08:15.120 --> 08:18.540 Full details are in the show notes and in every episode description. 08:19.400 --> 08:21.120 And what's the next episode about? 08:21.800 --> 08:24.280 About how to check what a medicine actually is. 08:24.280 --> 08:29.120 Where to look for official information about it without pretending to be a doctor. 08:29.940 --> 08:31.160 Until next time. 08:31.900 --> 08:33.480 Until next time.